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Liquid Activated Carbon The Cold Theory

Using Liquid Activated Carbon – continued

 

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Testing the Cold Theory

So I am back to update with a little more info on the dreaded liquid carbon in the beer fermentation. The bird had a theory that the liquid activated carbon would drop out of the beer if it got cold. So he went on to testing the cold theory.

Before adding in the clearing / fining agent the bird said he took out a gallon of the beer and put it in the freezer until frozen. He then put it in ice box until thawed.  He was hoping that this would drop out yeast and carbon so his beer could be distilled into fine whiskey.

Actually the Hooch Bird distills moonshine since he does his thing in the woods at night . The Hooch Bird says the best shine is made under the light of the moon in a pure copper still. He uses a thumper sometimes. Here is a good article on building one and some information Thumper in case you think you need one

This dropped a thick layer of carbon and yeast , generally called “trub” along with yeast nutrients to the bottom about half inch thick but the wash was still a gray color. So he poured it back in the fermenting bucket.

 

The Decision to Add the Fining Agent

Then part A of the clearing agent was added into the beer fermentation. It was allowed to sit over night so it would get warm enough for part B to do it’s job. Then he added in part B and waited to see if the yeast and the activated carbon would drop out of the beer.

The next day the beer looked a little cleaner how ever the fermentation had started back up. It had been hindered by either the charcoal, the molasses or perhaps just some bad yeast. Hard to say but the beer was low alcohol and very sweet. This sugar content may have contributed to the charcoal not dropping out when set out in the cold.

The bird had decided to allow the beer to sit for another week or so and see if the small fermentation would finish up . This would allow for more alcohol and perhaps a better flavor.

Hooch Bird’s sweet hydrometer

Hooch Bird will check his hydrometer for this I think just to make sure it is as low as possible.

 

Wow a week has almost went by already

 

Anyway the bird told me that fermentation had continued albeit quite small. The alcohol content was rising but he was not sure if it would ever make it to the almost zero sugar content he likes.

The bird likes to take his fermentations all the way down. This he says gives him maximum alcohol volume. Then he back sweetens the whiskey after distillation. This works out well and makes for some very tasty moonshine.

The bird also runs his distillation slowly for high proof but keeps a good quantity of the tails for flavor. He has his own ideas of how to make cuts and the “norm” is not his idea of how things should be done.

The bird said he ran out of hooch and had to fly on over to the local liquor store for some swill and after he drinks a bottle of that he will get back to work on his batch of whiskey. Oh, he said ” Don’t call it corn whiskey. It is “sweet feed whiskey” . You can get his recipe Sweet Feed Shine

Says he ain’t no damn corn shine slurpin hillbilly. 

The bird gets a tude when he has to drink from the liquor store.

Anyway to move ahead a little, he decided it was time to rack that wash. It looked pretty good but never did ferment down much. It was only at 1.050. He does not know what it started at but was about 18 Lbs sugar and 6 1/2 gallons water. He said he did not measure just poured a bunch in.

So now he has what would amount to a weak sweet beer . He said he would go ahead and run it as it was not going to be a recoverable operation as far as fermentation goes.
The bird has cheap electricity from solar panels so he can afford to run a batch that does not yield much alcohol. He also has well and thus a cheap source of ice cold water.
He also has a sweet bird house. Some birds just have it made in the shade.

Hooch Bird's Sweet House

Well off to take care of my other projects again. Will tell  you how this turned out next time.

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Liquid Activated Carbon – Remove Off Flavors in Fermentation

The Bird and the Alcohol

Liquid Activated Carbon in Fermentation Experiment

 

Distilling alcohol is of course illegal if you do not have a license to do it. It does not matter if you use a whiskey still or any other method to concentrate the alcohol. As ridiculous as it is for a law to have so much power written into it, you can have every single thing you own confiscated simply for owning a unregistered homemade pot still or any other still. If you have hooch in your car they can confiscate your car.
This is why I only brew beer but I do know a little bird that has a still. You can get a real nice one. Just hop on over here for a great selection of copper moonshine stills . They are Quite useful for other things also like distilling water and essential oils from plants.

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Now on to that liquid activated carbon the Hooch Bird decided to toss in his fermentation to remove off flavors. This was for a batch of his world famous sweet feed whiskey. He wanted to test out the stuff and see if it was actually a useful product or just a money maker for the manufacturer.


Any words on distillation are second hand told to me by the bird. The bird never shuts up and I think he samples his own wares.

Drunk bird


 

Activated Carbon (a birds perspective)

Okay I am going to start this blog off with a few words on using Liquor Quik Liquid Activated Carbon / Charcoal in with your fermentation of whatever it is you ferment.  This should equally apply to a wash or wort.  I am guessing you know what I mean by wash or wort. Just in case,  I call the liquid from the mash that is going to made into whiskey “wash” or “beer” and the liquid from a mash to make beer “wort” . They are of course both the same thing until fermented and finished up unless your using a sugar wash… But what the heck do I know I get my info from a drunk bird!

This is the opinion of the bird after using the charcoal one time so you may have a different experience in this matter.

 

What is Liquid Carbon


The activated carbon or charcoal is meant to absorb all the nasty off flavors that your yeast are making during the fermentation process.  You add it in the fermenter after the yeast and leave it in until fermentation is done.
Just stir it in real good. It turns your wash black. Does not look so tasty any more. It will absorb off flavors and should in theory make a much better tasting alcohol. This I would assume would apply more to a sugar wash and turbo yeast than any other thing.

After the fermentation is done you need to get rid of this stuff. The instructions say to then add in some clearing agent to drop out the carbon along with the yeast and other crap. The liquid carbon must be dropped out or the flavors will simply come back when you distill the wash.

Getting Rid of Liquid Activated Charcoal

According to the manufacturers directions you now need to add a clearing or ” fining” agent.  You need to store this clearing agent at room temp not in ice box. It don’t work so well if you do that. This clearing agent is a two part liquid. First you add part A and gently stir it in. You only want this floating on top so do not stir it all the way in just disperse it across the top. Then wait an hour and add part B and stir it in real good.
This is something the bird decided not to do. He had a theory that simply putting the wash somewhere good and cold would drop everything to the bottom just as he did normally. He figured why waste money on a fining agent when cold air is free in the winter.

I put my beer outside in the freezing cold all night to drop the crap out. It works quite well for yeast. Then I rack and allow to set again and rack again. Gives me nice clean beer

The bird was then going to rack it and let it set again one night. This should have cleared it up.
NOT! This beer was black and it stayed black. The charcoal did not drop.

So now the bird has ice cold wort and charcoal mixture to deal with. He could try a filter but this would likely leave too much carbon in the wash.

Okay then the bird said he decided to add the clearing agent. The beer was still cold but now in a warm room. Should not be a problem as it should warm up quick enough. Maybe.
The bird bought a pack of Still Spirits Turbo Clear and put it in the wash. Available at Adventures in Homebrewing for $3.99 and from Amazon for $10.99 .

What Will Happen 

I will write more about what happened later on. As for now I am off to do some writing on my other blog at Employee No More – Quit Your Day Job . Yep , I did it. I just endorsed my other blog. You can send me a hate filled email at marcus@employeenomore.net or marcus@employee-no-more.com . Just do not post it here or I will have to send that Hooch Bird over to kick your behind and drink your booze.

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